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January 25, 2005

Yet another response to DU

In this post (warning: disturbing images), DUer NightTrain invites "right-wing lurkers" to view images of injured or killed children, and then asks, "Still think the War On Terror will make America safer in the decades to come? For chrissake, how fucking delusional can you be???"

Answer: I'm not delusional, I'm logical. And as such, I recognize argumentum ad misericordiam as the logical fallacy it is. Undoubtedly, one could find similar pictures of German and Japanese children in World War II, and had color photography had been invented, such sad pictures could be found from the Civil War or American Revolution. Does that mean that we should have rolled over for the Axis? Does it mean that the Union should have been allowed to break apart, or British rule should have been endured?

No, it does not. The morality of the war in Iraq is a valid question, but the display of these pictures adds nothing to the debate. They're a cheap appeal to pity, nothing more. And if you allow them to persuade you, I'm afraid it is you who is not being rational, not your opponents.

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Color photography was 'invented' before world war I

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

Posted by: Jesse | Jan 25, 2005 7:18:09 PM

Um, yes. Your point?

Posted by: Voice of Reason | Jan 25, 2005 7:29:19 PM

More from the thread:

You need to understand something. It requires a HEART to have compassion for those babies or any other innocent Iraqi who has been injured or killed.

And it requires a BRAIN to ignore the visceral emotional reaction produced by these pictures, and instead make intelligent decisions based on cold, hard, logic rather than the unreliable and irrational workings of the heart.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | Jan 25, 2005 7:32:56 PM

They killed the thread on DU. Were there many responses from the right?

Posted by: William | Jan 26, 2005 7:59:25 AM

No, there were not. My guess is that it was pulled because of the disturbing images, some of which were quite gruesome.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | Jan 26, 2005 8:59:35 AM

"Um, yes. Your point?"

I'm simply stating that there is a factual error in your article above. Perhaps you consider that nit-picky, but some may consider pointing out logical falacies at DU nit-picky (since, clearly, they consider logical falacies normal discourse).

And I don't like disseminating misinformation.

Posted by: Jesse | Jan 26, 2005 3:53:56 PM

Re-read the post Jesse...


"Undoubtedly, one could find similar pictures of German and Japanese children in World War II, and had color photography had been invented, such sad pictures could be found from the Civil War or American Revolution."

enhance...

"and had color photography had been invented, such sad pictures could be found from the Civil War or American Revolution."


enhance...


"CIVIL WAR, OR AMERICAN REVOLUTION"

So I guess I "nit-picked" your "nit-picking" ?

Posted by: warn3rboy | Jan 26, 2005 6:12:58 PM

Heh, I stand corrected. I think I need to increase the font size when I view this page.

Posted by: jesse | Jan 26, 2005 10:57:07 PM

You may also enjoy that erupted when similar photos were removed from Metafilter. Reason: The site owner also agreed that ugly photos do not an effective case make. Naturally, the visceral-reaction crowd had a shrieking fit.

Posted by: dzd | Jan 31, 2005 12:54:06 PM

Oh poo, I appear to have messed up my anchor tags.

Posted by: dzd | Jan 31, 2005 12:54:36 PM

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