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August 23, 2005
Lies about lies
Notables from Joseph Goebbels to Marcus Garvey are on record extolling the power of the lie repeated. It's a sad phenomenon: repeat a lie often enough and it becomes embedded in the public consciousness, and gradually accepted as fact.
The Democrats are studiously promulgating a little Big Lie of their own, and that lie is, "Bush lied us into war." This falsehood is generally accepted as gospel by the left, and yet the fact that it is a lie is so obvious that it serves as a textbook example of how repetition enables the acceptance of the outlandish.
For starters, not every false statement is a lie. If a student incorrectly answers a question on a test, his answer is false, but not a lie. If I break my leg and end up in a hospital, my earlier statement to a friend "I'll meet you for dinner tonight at 6" is false, but not a lie. If a project goes over budget, the budget is false, not a lie.
All lies are falsehoods, but not all falsehoods are lies. A lie is a knowing falsehood told with intent to deceive. Honest mistakes are not lies. Good-faith errors based on information believed reliable are not lies.
For Bush's claims of Iraqi WMDs to be a lie, Bush would have to be aware they were false. If he did, he would possibly have been the only person in a position of authority (with the possible exception of Saddam Hussein) to know this. See John Hawkins's page of WMD quotes for an illustration. Prominent Democrats from Barbara Boxer to Tom Daschle to John Kerry to Robert Byrd to John Edwards to Ted Kennedy to Jacques Chirac are all on record making strong statements of belief in Saddam Hussein's weapons programs. Either all these notables are liars too, or some of them believed what they said.
(The typical rejoinder is that these poor people were all taken in by Bush's lies. Sadly, many of these quotes predate the Bush administration.)
So we have two possibilities: Bush believed in good faith the same intelligence that convinced all these other people that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and chose to act on that intelligence. Or Bush, alone among prominent leaders, knew that the WMDs did not exist and chose to act anyway. He sold America on a war with claims of WMDs he knew didn't exist. What then? If he knew that WMDs didn't exist, he knew that American troops would find no WMDs. Did he think the American people would just forget? Of course, to the left Bush is an idiot chimp, but they have dark respect for the sinister abilities and political genius of his handlers. Would Karl Rove ever allow his puppet to make such a staggeringly bad political move as launching a war under pretenses that were certain to be proven false?
To believe that Bush lied us into war, one must accept incredibly unlikely postulates. When those who should know better insist that Bush lied us into war, they themselves are lying.
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The best treatise on the (lost) arts of logic, grammar, and rhetoric of which I am aware is Trivium, by Sister Miriam Joseph (Raus). The ability to construct a proper arguement or proposition and, perhaps more important, the ability to detect and refute a false one, is no longer routinely taught. Here is a first-rate text on this vital subject.
Clayton Jones
Huntsville, AL
Posted by: Clayton Jones | Aug 23, 2005 1:26:52 PM
If the accuracy, truthfulness, veracity of Bush's pre war statments are not lies, what are they? How would you characterize them? Whether he knew they were false or didn't want to know whether or not they are false, may be germane to whether he met the threshold for the term "lie." But it's a sad distinction without a difference when it comes to his leaderhsip of the free world.
Posted by: Progressive Pulpit | Aug 24, 2005 4:02:39 PM
If the accuracy, truthfulness, veracity of Bush's pre war statments are not lies, what are they? How would you characterize them?
Um, as an error? As an intelligence failure? As a judgment made on what seemed, to all appearances, ironclad evidence? People make mistakes, you know. In this case, however, the mistake was not Bush's. He relied on the best judgment of his intelligence services, which is exactly what a President should do.
Whether he knew they were false or didn't want to know whether or not they are false
Ah, the Fallacy of the False Dichotomy, my old nemesis. There are other options, you know.
But it's a sad distinction without a difference when it comes to his leaderhsip of the free world.
Rubbish. You're holding that if someone in the Administration screws up, anyone, and the President relies on his judgment and thus errs, the President is a liar? You impose an impossibly strict standard, under which not only the President but every executive in any decent-sized organization would have a tongue as black as coal.
Posted by: Voice of Reason | Aug 24, 2005 9:58:27 PM
If they are getting their information from criminals like Chalabi and not bothering to do the due dilligence before going to war, yes I do feel I was lied to as a citizen. The plausible deniability of saying 'Chalabi seemed really honest at the time' and 'the intelligence that we cherry picked was wrong, not us' doesn't fly with me or an increasing number of Americans.
You are arguing semantics, but the fact remains that America was pressured to go to war on the fear that Iraq could and would attack the US. That wasn't the case. Somebody should be held responsible, and giving Tenat the Medal of Freedom while scapegoating him isn't really penance enough for me.
Posted by: Hobospider | Aug 25, 2005 8:55:24 AM
The delays with the UNSC gave the Baathists months and months to move plenty across the border or to hiding places yet to be discovered. These would not be unprecedented tactics in the Middle East nor in Saddam's modus operandi. Even if it turns out that Saddam's regime had been bluffing, or had been incompetently purusing its WMD programs, our elected reps decided to open the Iraq front based on the best info available.
And President Bush has never evaded his responsibility for making that decision on behalf of the country.
You might disagree with that decision and, as with detractors of Truman, you might continue to second-guess all that unfolds. But what if you are wrong? Would that make you a liar?
Posted by: Chairm | Aug 26, 2005 3:29:09 AM
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